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		<title>By: You Missed The Golden Days of Internet Pay Per Click Advertising Circa 2003 &#124; GROWMAP.COM</title>
		<link>http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>You Missed The Golden Days of Internet Pay Per Click Advertising Circa 2003 &#124; GROWMAP.COM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Expanded Broad Match and the Google 1-2 Punch (Oct 14, 2007) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: intoto</title>
		<link>http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>intoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The danish Google AdWord does not show this 1-2 Punch any more, not sure that it ever realy did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The danish Google AdWord does not show this 1-2 Punch any more, not sure that it ever realy did.</p>
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		<title>By: giulio morelli</title>
		<link>http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>giulio morelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m a adword&#039;s publisher and i think the query generated in the google search are always &quot;pertinent&quot; to that the people are looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m a adword&#8217;s publisher and i think the query generated in the google search are always &#8220;pertinent&#8221; to that the people are looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Alienates More Of Its Stakeholders &#124; BPWrap</title>
		<link>http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Alienates More Of Its Stakeholders &#124; BPWrap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In parallel with this Adwords advertisers were complaining that the rules were being modified so as to bump up Google&#8217;s advertising revenues in the third quarter. Mike Churchill has a good explanation of this in Expanded Broad Match and The Google 1-2 Punch Why does Google refuse to allow opt out for &#8220;expanded broad match&#8221;? The original explanation I received for implementation of &#8220;expanded broad match&#8221; was to enhance the AdWords user&#8217;s experience and provide them a better variety of related ads. Started out innocent enough, but as Google went public and had to answer to the ridiculous quarterly financial demands put on public companies by &#8220;Wall street&#8221; they probably realized that killing &#8220;expanded broad match&#8221; would have a severely negative impact on AdWords revenue. Furthermore, with continued &#8220;Wall street&#8221; pressure following Google&#8217;s first time &#8220;missed quarter&#8221; Google probably sees this: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In parallel with this Adwords advertisers were complaining that the rules were being modified so as to bump up Google&#8217;s advertising revenues in the third quarter. Mike Churchill has a good explanation of this in Expanded Broad Match and The Google 1-2 Punch Why does Google refuse to allow opt out for &#8220;expanded broad match&#8221;? The original explanation I received for implementation of &#8220;expanded broad match&#8221; was to enhance the AdWords user&#8217;s experience and provide them a better variety of related ads. Started out innocent enough, but as Google went public and had to answer to the ridiculous quarterly financial demands put on public companies by &#8220;Wall street&#8221; they probably realized that killing &#8220;expanded broad match&#8221; would have a severely negative impact on AdWords revenue. Furthermore, with continued &#8220;Wall street&#8221; pressure following Google&#8217;s first time &#8220;missed quarter&#8221; Google probably sees this: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WordPress SEO</title>
		<link>http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>WordPress SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Pierre,

I don&#039;t have empirical data on keyword insertion as we don&#039;t use it much, but I can reply to Matt that in our markets we&#039;ve found the the additional clicks from expanded broad match were next to worthless in sales generation (insurance and real estate).

Next to useless means three times higher advertising costs and 25% more sales. I&#039;ve written up my own experience on &lt;a title=&quot;&quot; href=&quot;http://foliovision.com/2007/11/05/adwords-expanded-broad-match/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;how to combat Google&#039;s expanded broad match cash grab&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Pierre,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have empirical data on keyword insertion as we don&#8217;t use it much, but I can reply to Matt that in our markets we&#8217;ve found the the additional clicks from expanded broad match were next to worthless in sales generation (insurance and real estate).</p>
<p>Next to useless means three times higher advertising costs and 25% more sales. I&#8217;ve written up my own experience on <a title="" href="http://foliovision.com/2007/11/05/adwords-expanded-broad-match/" rel="nofollow">how to combat Google&#8217;s expanded broad match cash grab</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Van Wagner</title>
		<link>http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Van Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than assigning evil intent, or profiteering as motivations for Google. perhaps we could also consider that they are running a test of behavioral ad targeting on direct search results?

The premise behind behavioral ad targeting is that you get to present ads that reflect what&#039;s on the person&#039;s mind even when they are doing something else. This how the behavioral ad networks operate. Look at a car site one day, and all of a sudden every website you go to seems to have an ad about cars.

While it may seem unlikely that this type of behavioral targeting would translate well into regular paid search results on a search engine, how would you know unless you tested it?   Seems like a good thing to test, if you believe in behavior targeting in its current iterations.

My opinion is that behavioral ads mixed in with keyword relevant ads would be a long-shot to perform well, but how can you know unless it gets tested?  As outrageous as an idea may seem, it is quite possible it could turn out to be an effective generator of effective broad matched traffic.


Just a theory, at any rate.

Matt VW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than assigning evil intent, or profiteering as motivations for Google. perhaps we could also consider that they are running a test of behavioral ad targeting on direct search results?</p>
<p>The premise behind behavioral ad targeting is that you get to present ads that reflect what&#8217;s on the person&#8217;s mind even when they are doing something else. This how the behavioral ad networks operate. Look at a car site one day, and all of a sudden every website you go to seems to have an ad about cars.</p>
<p>While it may seem unlikely that this type of behavioral targeting would translate well into regular paid search results on a search engine, how would you know unless you tested it?   Seems like a good thing to test, if you believe in behavior targeting in its current iterations.</p>
<p>My opinion is that behavioral ads mixed in with keyword relevant ads would be a long-shot to perform well, but how can you know unless it gets tested?  As outrageous as an idea may seem, it is quite possible it could turn out to be an effective generator of effective broad matched traffic.</p>
<p>Just a theory, at any rate.</p>
<p>Matt VW</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Perkins</title>
		<link>http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Mike.  I think you have described it perfectly.

Note to Christian: I guess Google&#039;s intent is to determine the searcher&#039;s intent further, because (except when we&#039;re talking about search professionals) often when people perform two searches in succession, the second search is a refinement of the first one.  Once again though, as with Expanded Broad Match, advertisers did not opt in to this feature and are not given the option to opt out.  Unlike Expanded Broad Match, Google didn&#039;t even bother to announce or document this &quot;enhancement&quot;.

Note to Pierre: It will have not have the implied impact on dynamic keyword insertion, because the keyword that is dynamically inserted is the trigger keyword that appears in your Adwords account, not the query that the searcher typed (or the extended query derived from the referrer query and the current query).  The only impact it will have is that some keywords will be triggered that you would not necessarily expect to be triggered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Mike.  I think you have described it perfectly.</p>
<p>Note to Christian: I guess Google&#8217;s intent is to determine the searcher&#8217;s intent further, because (except when we&#8217;re talking about search professionals) often when people perform two searches in succession, the second search is a refinement of the first one.  Once again though, as with Expanded Broad Match, advertisers did not opt in to this feature and are not given the option to opt out.  Unlike Expanded Broad Match, Google didn&#8217;t even bother to announce or document this &#8220;enhancement&#8221;.</p>
<p>Note to Pierre: It will have not have the implied impact on dynamic keyword insertion, because the keyword that is dynamically inserted is the trigger keyword that appears in your Adwords account, not the query that the searcher typed (or the extended query derived from the referrer query and the current query).  The only impact it will have is that some keywords will be triggered that you would not necessarily expect to be triggered.</p>
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		<title>By: AdWords Specialist</title>
		<link>http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>AdWords Specialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very Interesting!
But what does Google want to accomplish with this move - beside earning more money.
I can&#039;t see how this will gain the quality of the searches, only mixing the bidding war between different markets.
Best regards,
Christian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Interesting!<br />
But what does Google want to accomplish with this move &#8211; beside earning more money.<br />
I can&#8217;t see how this will gain the quality of the searches, only mixing the bidding war between different markets.<br />
Best regards,<br />
Christian</p>
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		<title>By: Google Ã¦ndrer i Adwords uden at informere &#8230; &#124; SÃ¸gemaskineoptimering</title>
		<link>http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Ã¦ndrer i Adwords uden at informere &#8230; &#124; SÃ¸gemaskineoptimering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeg faldt over begrebet Google adwords 12 punch pÃ¥ demib.dk - http://www.demib.dk/adwords-punch-667.htmlÂ - som havde set det pÃ¥ http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch.html [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeg faldt over begrebet Google adwords 12 punch pÃ¥ demib.dk &#8211; <a href="http://www.demib.dk/adwords-punch-667.htmlÂ -" rel="nofollow">http://www.demib.dk/adwords-punch-667.htmlÂ -</a> som havde set det pÃ¥ <a href="http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch.html</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.semclubhouse.com/expanded-broad-match-and-the-google-1-2-punch/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the referrer has the erroneous keyword you can still build negatives...but probabalistically, precedent search habits cannot be predicted, thus it&#039;s touch and go and trust google to some degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the referrer has the erroneous keyword you can still build negatives&#8230;but probabalistically, precedent search habits cannot be predicted, thus it&#8217;s touch and go and trust google to some degree.</p>
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